tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post2470978060933669629..comments2023-11-02T06:32:16.443-05:00Comments on It's Just A Blog: Discussing ObamaWestyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11349549360672400647noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-43918917344560493722008-12-15T20:46:00.000-06:002008-12-15T20:46:00.000-06:00Is there where we transition into a lengthy debate...<I>Is there where we transition into a lengthy debate about religion and the ability to know whether the Bible or your belief system is more right than another or no belief system? </I><BR/>I suppose so. And I'm not convinced blog commenting back and forth is the best forum for that. But I can pretty succinctly say what I think at least about a couple of these items. Of course, I could discuss about anything ad infinitum, so...<BR/><BR/><I>I'm not sure why only one group has to be right. </I><BR/>Well, since each is making pretty exclusive claims that necessarily contradict the other, really only one can actually be accurate. <BR/><BR/><I>Obama inventing tenants of belief doesn't necessarily make them wrong does it?</I><BR/>Exactly. No, it doesn't. But it doesn't mean they're right, and if they contradict someone else's claims, one of them is right and the other wrong. <BR/><BR/>And I think you fairly astutely note that it pretty much boils down to someone's belief as to the Bible's inerrancy. At least in terms of Christianity...Westyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349549360672400647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-26343357831977880962008-12-14T00:26:00.000-06:002008-12-14T00:26:00.000-06:00"And only one group can be right." I'm not sure wh..."And only one group can be right." I'm not sure why only one group has to be right. Or maybe I'm not clear on your meaning of it.<BR/><BR/>"It doesn't change what the bible says" True, but I suppose what the Bible says doesn't change much else either - except those who think the Bible is absolutely right. Obama inventing tenants of belief doesn't necessarily make them wrong does it?<BR/><BR/>Is there where we transition into a lengthy debate about religion and the ability to know whether the Bible or your belief system is more right than another or no belief system? I'm down with that, but I may be late to the game if you guys have already debated that before. :)nopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05075077389704885347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-27765387974861114732008-12-12T12:04:00.000-06:002008-12-12T12:04:00.000-06:00"The president isn't in office to convert others i..."The president isn't in office to convert others in anyway."<BR/><BR/>I think this is very important. The president has an extraordinary amount of power and influence and to use that for any reason beyond what's specifically laid out in the constitution would be very evil no matter how good your intentions may be.Robbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13174642455891724715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-81119322668590886992008-12-11T12:20:00.000-06:002008-12-11T12:20:00.000-06:00He can believe whatever he wants, but that doesn't...He can believe whatever he wants, but that doesn't change what the Bible says. Jesus didn't say "I am a way and a truth and a life"...He said "I am THE way and THE truth and THE life."<BR/><BR/>It's a free country and Obama can invent whatever tenents of belief that he desires, but that doesn't make them right, Biblical, or Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-38096098603959144632008-12-08T17:03:00.000-06:002008-12-08T17:03:00.000-06:00In regards to religion...Certainly the views he es...<I>In regards to religion...</I><BR/>Certainly the views he espouses likely fall within mainstream thinking amongst mainstream liberal protestant or unitarian/universalist churches today. <BR/><BR/>It's also worth noting, however, that those same views would likely place him and those others outside Christianity by most other adherents’ definition. <BR/><BR/>And only one group can be right.Westyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349549360672400647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-23919893536573936132008-12-06T09:03:00.000-06:002008-12-06T09:03:00.000-06:00I agree with Robby. I think it's great that the pr...I agree with Robby. I think it's great that the president-elect is focusing on education, I'm just not sure if the 4000 credit will really be the answer or not. And rewarding students to go into teaching and nursing, etc may not be the complete answer either. A big problem with some of these careers is not getting them in, it's getting them to stay. And considering the pay scale, I imagine it makes it difficult for teachers to decide to stay. Just look at the language - "those WILLING to go into teaching, nursing". These are professions people reluctantly decide to do but not necessarily want to do? That's another topic though.<BR/><BR/>In regards to religion, I think he's right. The president isn't in office to convert others in anyway. He's there to protect the interests of all of the American people - regardless of their religious or demographic make up. It's why I often also have issues with the rhetoric that "we must spread democracy throughout the world." No we mustn't. Our own government is an experiment - why on earth should we force others to use it. It may not be the best government.<BR/><BR/>Unlike Leslie, I think it's fortunate he said this. But I also don't necessarily believe her quote from Jesus either. But we all have our faith and arguing that would probably be futile.nopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05075077389704885347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-55950508722462320642008-12-05T20:53:00.000-06:002008-12-05T20:53:00.000-06:00As Jesus said "no one comes to the Father except t...As Jesus said "no one comes to the Father except through me." <BR/>Obama doesn't seem to belive that. Unfortunately that is what I expected him to say.Leslie C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02438927805053796718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12661191.post-16126152776459816102008-12-04T16:57:00.000-06:002008-12-04T16:57:00.000-06:00College education has already become way overprice...College education has already become way overpriced as a result of the government subsidizing it. This would continue that trend. Saying that there is a shortage in teaching and nursing and for that reason scholarships should be targeted for those majors is laughable but par for the course in politics.<BR/><BR/>His comments about religion seem reasonable.Robbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13174642455891724715noreply@blogger.com